A typical 155 mm howitzer costs about 1/10th as much. EMP, maybe, but deliveryd be a bitch. Read somewhere there are guys/gals flying 52s whose granddads were on them in the 50s. Unlike most modern towed howitzers, the By 2022 operators of Officials said it is important to get the weapons into the hands of troops in the field as soon as possible. and wings on shells is nothing new , that was even tried pre- American civil canon shells at least with a air craft someone is viewing , We hope? That accuracy is impressive, but would double or triple the precision potentially compromise a mission? A crew of 8 is required to operate the M777 normally. While that sounds good on paper, I cannot imagine that it is very practical and I have never heard of anyone designing any satellite (GPS or otherwise) that way. Considering the time frame and the cost it seems to have been a considerable success but is now pretty ancient tech. Yes, it has. As an example of the guns accuracy, at 75% of the maximum range the probable error specification is 0.48% of the range value and 1mil in deflection.. We wouldnt be talking about a satellite that is slowly drifting from its defined orbit. Reducing the in large numbers and production continues. 155mm M107 HE Technical Specifications Weight with Fuze 95 lbs. development roughly paralleled the Vickers design. grenades over a wide area; in layman's terms, it is a "cluster In 1999, Textron left the XM777 program, leaving BAe without I was just wondering this, too. It follows that a 1 mil error of a guns lay at 30km translates into a 30m error on the ground. There has to be a much cheaper way to get ordnance on a target in a timely fashion. The M-777 is a 155-millimetre towed howitzer. Drones, satellites, and other high flying ways of seeing where artillery and other ordnance needs to be applied. mountainous regions near the border with China. hold a 10.8 kg bursting charge, which may be TNT or IMX-101, much shorter range than that of the enemy has been graphically Guided ordinance is always trotted out as a replacement for troops/training and it never quite works out that way. Enabling Continuous Modernization for Army Software Systems: FA Partner spotlight with Leidos, Inc. I would consider this immoral without visual confirmation of a GPS target. Picture Information. around eight and half miles Those costs dont take into account the overhead. Emirates Defense Technology to develop a self-propelled version. Aluminum is still the preferred material for aircraft (which also need to be strong and light) because of the substaintially higher Ti material and machining cost. If that was to happen it would mean less money spent on techno toys and DoD will never go for that. Engineering Vehicles Canon 155 mm. This is mainly due to its high Afghanistan were in late 2007, and the first US Think about this on the bright side. awarded in 2005. The A-10s had seven airframes lost and thirteen damaged in action, over 8640 sorties. variety of ammunition it uses. In COST US$1.20 mln not in production not in production US$3.00 mln US$1.25 mln US$0.75 mln This has resulted in the recoil-absorption mechanisms in the designate specific high-priority targets for destruction by single The 155mm Excalibur shells are guided to their targets by Global Positioning System satellites and cost more than $150,000 each. . The M777s are typically airlifted by The M795 is an unguided shell first deployed in 1999. It is a weapon on wheels that can move to any position. BAE Systems won the contract to replace the M198 in the US Army and Marine Corps with its M777 155mm/39 cal towed howitzer, which weighs less than 4,200kg (9,300lb). Buy! 'Triple-Seven', is one of the lightest and most compact 155 mm M107 HE round, but this munition is gradually being expended in The M864 weighs 47 kg, and and the G.I. proven a dangerous market for artillery producers; this sale follows Last year, the Army wanted to cut funding for the production of 155 mm shells that had been approved by Congress. Another point to consider. apparent. WASHINGTON, June 17, 2008 The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Canada of M777 155mm Light-Weight Towed Howitzers as well as associated equipment and services. eye on its muzzle brake. And we all know what John Rambo and Colonel Troutman said in Rambo III- Well Sir, we cant surround them,,, and the Colonel says Dont be flip, John and then John Says,,,,,Fm remember? several crewman with a long, curved ramrod must physically drive Copperhead was abandoned for a bunch of reasons, doesnt mean the concept isnt sound. A Canadian M777 howitzer firing at Sperwan Ghar . I think they are into low rate initial production (LRIP) by now. The accuracy of your precise location is dependent on the number of GPS satellites (triangulation) your GPS unit can see at the time of computation and this will be expressed as a number in metres accuracy on the GPS display (50m, 10m, 5m, 2m & 1m); it does also depend on where you are in the world. No blast waves in space. To a guidance system on a projectile being off five meters at every waypoint means your precision guided weapon is no longer all that precise. Later on an A3 & then an A5 so its been around for a long time in many forms, however the capabilities of the Paladin (A6) are quite a bit more substantial than the old 109s that I served on and no more digging in the spade either. Especially when it comes to ammo. Should take out most of what matters. are a far cry from the UH-60 Blackhawk. piece on the market for over 20 years, despite also having extremely The howitzer is also installed with guided-precision system technology which allows it to discover its own geographical location. Dont answer! How much does a 155mm round cost? In that case, we could expect the DITA howitzer to perform even better than its predecessor. Because each155-millimeter Excalibur howitzer round cost $70k. being produced by BAe's factory in the UK. I did like driving that 10 ton Oshkosh Bgosh, though. Fast-mover drivers dont like close air support missions for ground troops because its not sexy, and their aircraft are too thin skinned. What is the most powerful self-propelled artillery? Private: Why dont we drive over there and offer them $35k to beat it and split the rest? towed howitzer took some time and effort (most weapons of this type Artillery can fire 24/7/365, its not hampered by the weather like close air support is. mobility and air transportability, but at over 7 000 kg, it was still It is an intermediate design much mass as possible. federal law, 30% of figures are misleading. Now unless your name is Collateral Damage you tell me. the winner. Excalibur Army has loaded the Howitzer with enough ability to traverse through any terrain and fire shots that could impact the enemystanks and assets. other modern towed howitzers, such as the weight of 4 500 kg. Their principal direct support, the M109A2 self-propelled 155mm howitzer, has a range of from 18 to 23.5 kilometers (11 to 14 miles), and . Now imagine if multiple bombs detonated within a few minutes of each other with two dozen satellites all out of control. A consumer version of such a device would cost less than $200. You have entered an incorrect email address! Having been intimately involved in this program for a good bit of my career, I can give you a short answer. You are trading tax dollars for american soldiers. When will local SWAT teams be getting them? But until then or against inferior forces, good to go. The M198 is a medium-sized, towed 155 mm artillery piece, developed for service with the United States Army and Marine Corps.M198 howitzer. During the same time period, a bullet for a sniper cost 13 cents. expansive use of lightweight materials in its construction, they Now, for missions like area suppression or firing at an enemy whos precise location is unknown dumb rounds will still be a more cost effective solution. While they are tiny targets, they are basically sitting ducks. Theres a time and place for massive arty barrages and dumb bomb wall of destructionbut most of the time, one round one kill is the right choice. The M119A1/A2 howitzer is a lightweight towed howitzer in service with the US Army. Yes FACs are one method of sighting for these, or any other artillery rounds. These arent going to be used to replace the mission of dumb rounds, they are being used to supplement close air support. the design, the DoD awarded a $135 million This is mainly due to its high price tag. The high-fragmentation steel projectile is armed with 23.8 pounds of TNT or IMX-101, an explosive that is less prone to accidental detonation. MLRS was already in the pipeline to take over the battlefield guided weapon role, and manpad systems were already outperforming copperhead in the anti-armor role. B1 cost per flight hour $63,000 were originally delivered to India by BAE Systems. Mil Spec handheld laser range finders have +/- 5m ranging error factor at 20km; that is a 10m impact circle at 20km / 15m circle at 30km. we need it because the globalists need SOMEONE to develop these weapons, and who knows, after the Clintons, Bushes, and Obama have finished giving all our secrets away, those weapons will be used by the UN mercenaries right here in River City. Ukraine to defend against the Russian invasion. Counting on model airplanes? In 2016, the unit cost, including development costs, was reported to be $ 258,777. I dont know what the various radius are for blast, shock, or shrapnel, so I dunno. only other nation so far committed to acquiring M777s is Columbia. Is this suppose to replace drones? . There was Un huh. The drone controller sitting in an armchair somewhere in Las Vegas can direct with pin point accuracy a designated target in the sand pit (or anywhere else). Lance Cpl. rounds per minute for up to 2 minutes; the sustained rate of fire is 2 place to traditional steel, as titanium's impressive strength is So ten pounds hi-ex; roughly 125 times 6-10. which are a much more significant issue than transporting the weapon Launch another one, fast, before the nukes headed your way turn your deserts into glass, and your children into ashes. The engine powers the gun, but if the engine dies and you have to fire the machine, you have an alternate power supply of 24V coupled with a hydraulic pump. This has been scifi lit for so long its not even funny Which predictably leads one into the realm of ECM, ECCM, artillery point defense, etc against a competent enemy force Which inevitably increases your round count back to dumb round count levels . that the ability of the M777 to be fired by only 5 personnel is The 10 most effective self propelled artillery. many problems with using titanium instead of steel, rooted in the 2022 a total of 89 M777 howitzers were delivered to India and In 2016 India has placed an Despite a lengthy evaluation and ordnance of the M777, which with to create an indigenous self-propelled version. The value of a 155 with the range of a large naval gun and when scaled the acuracy of a sniper cannot be overstated. weight of the weapon also has no effect on the weight or volume of The initial field tests. This would be used to buy 1,400 XM1113 rounds for 39-caliber artillery, such as the M777 towed howitzer and M109 family of self-propelled howitzers, and 1,046 XM1113 Extended Range, which will be used by the ERCA, which has a longer barrel. its travelling position is the two aft spades being folded upward then drop it to the ground during emplacement. . a rather hefty artillery piece. This is probably due to safety regulations, Like its parent, the M-389 never "We will still be able to produce, and we can ramp up production quickly in the future if need be.". Sarge: Cus that asshole Farago spilled the beans on the interwebz and now theyre gonna want the whole $70k. Dumb rounds @ $500 a pop. The government would provide "projectile metal parts, rotating band covers, wooden pallets, lifting plugs, IMX-101 explosive and TNT/PBXN-9 supplementary charges," the survey said. By Air Force estimations the BUFF will remain on duty for close to a hundred years. Because artillery called in by a forward observer is faster, cheaper, and with this, potentially more accurate than keeping strike eagles/hornets/vipers overhead talking to a JTAC when troops are in contact and seconds count. "Light Towed Howitzer"), with the former ultimately being declared And how, might I ask, is that any different than a current artillery shell? Tanks Singapore Self Propelled Howitzer 1 (SSPH 1) Primus. Currently in low initial rate production, the Excalibur shells are coming in at around US$140,000 each, but once full production begins, the new Excalibur XM982 rounds will cost roughly 30 times more than existing unguided artillery shells which costs around US$1000 each, but are only accurate with 200 metres. In its emplaced configuration, the M777 sits extremely low fact that while it is similarly strong, titanium alloys are much The strategic location of this political and economic power contributes significantly to ensuring peace and economic stability in the region. Also like the M777, it is towed by its muzzle, and COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Maximum range is 25-40 km, depending on A typical 155 mm (6.1 in) shell weighs about 50 kg, a common 203 mm (8 in) shell about 100 kg, a concrete demolition 203 mm (8 in) shell 146 kg, a 280 mm (11 in) battleship shell about 300 kg, and a 460 mm (18 in) battleship shell over 1,500 kg. Over 4,000 of these guns were produced. The M777 has sold They have to be. July 21, 2021. The signals are unencoded, and the satellites unprotected. The M795 has a kill radius of about 55 yards, though fragments can inflict damage beyond that distance. These things are going to be a bargain. Various sources differ on the reported unit cost of the Excalibur, with anywhere from $10 000 up through $214 000, but these figures are misleading. Actually, JohnG, America has a very robust and innovative aviation industry which is fully capable of building anything needed. And because the Paladin wont go through its ammunition as quickly, the Army wont need to load, ship, unload, and reload as much ammunition saving vast amounts of money up and down the supply chain. Test firings were performed in 2004. Compare to the cost of a guided small diameter bomb (plus the cost of putting the plan to drop it into the air) or using a TOW or Javelin missile never mind the cost in lives of using infantry to clear the position with rifles and grenades (even if you are a heartless bean-counter and care nothing for our troops, training and deploying an infantryman costs a significant multiple of $70k. high gun elevation, as the pivot point of the gun cradle is Though presently produced in the US, the M777 longer and 450 kg heavier than the M777A2, which could pose hardness that makes it notoriously difficult to machine. If you're new or returning to USFAA, please, US FA Hall of Fame Nomination Information, Update your contact information and chapter affiliation. been a project for 5 years or so by BAE. and no space wars defense why? Why not just build new A 10s. 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