This is the other circumstance where I use Please advise.. But dont you need to reply all with a request to be removed from a group email? When I worked in customer-facing roles in retail and food service, I much preferred looking the next person in line in the eye and saying something like, Step on up. Are they presenting you with new information about something thats typically your responsibility? I managed to screw up pretty regularly in the third category, which led to me being pretty gun-shy about replying at all unless I was explicitly asked a question or given an action item. I tend to err on the side of not reading snideness into emails unless its either really egregious or I have reason to believe that the person is actually trying to be snide. Why do we write it in emails? Its quite amazing. What time shall we say? This means that you can drop the adverb "please" and simply use "let me know if you need any help" instead. or Let me know if you can join me.? Ive already posted something like four comments in this thread, which is kind of amazing since I dont think Ive ever consciously considered my thoughts on please advise before. So? I used to manage a group of volunteers for a Nigerian 419 scam warning website. the people who are secretly working multiple full-time jobs from home, future manager is a bigoted jerk, boss hasnt paid me back, and more, weekend open thread February 18-19, 2023. (I got that salutation a lot from coworkers in my office but rarely from folks in other offices.) I have a lady who has Thank YOU! (note the application of all-caps) as part of her email signature I read it differently but I dont interact with her on a day-to-day basis so I just suck it up. The seller with an email address above tried to sell tv in UK but never wanted to meet up and show the goods. If you dont have the friendliest relationship with that person, their please advise can sound snippy. I find this thread fascinating. Thats a GREAT post, and the comments under it are even better. Trust me, you cannot stop people from asking! I always read it like shes yodeling at me. Meeting subject: International Teapot Commerce. Like. I think rocky relationships with colleagues and/or managers can have someone interpret all correspondence with some level of snark, condescending, shouting, bossy etc in tone even if it is genuinely not the case. It definitely gets results. I just had this situation the other day someone asked me to change something that I posted in our system. of these changes. It is almost always someone who is trying to disagree and doesnt want to explain how or why, someone who is trying to delay, or someone who doesnt want to make a decision (but not in a whats your advice? way, more in a I dont want to deal with this way). There was another word that was used differently than standard American English was it something like presently instead of soon? EmilyG, can you reboot the X server because it appears to be down and I need to work on Y. TIA! was reasonable enough. TechCrunch. My HTML brain cells went out for a moment. If the person who sends you emails with this is in is known for being demanding and bratty, then you have a problem, and it isnt that they say please advise in their emails. I have used the kindly requesting bit. But if its just a heres a problem, what should I do? then my advice is that you should rewrite your email and come back to me when you have a plan of action. I highly recommend it. The sender was supposed to gather enamel samples to base a decision on, but flaked on doing it. Aaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh! I might IM and say, Do you have time for a quick call? If the other person says, Yes, then I call THEM. They are synonymous phrases, so sure, but I like please advise better. Im having a problem with this and Im not sure what to ask for but this is what we need. I use Please Advise constantly when I have no idea what the actual question would normally be. Please advise doesnt phase me a bit, although I usually go for please clarify or please let me know your thoughts. Do something with it.. WTF is wrong with you? 1. Im hoping you have more important things to worry about. Is the writer at a higher level than you in the company? Just no. TechCrunch. This gives me more confidence that the context will be correct, which is hard to trust with auto-correction apps", A real person editor is much2 better than a software editor. Research indicates, however, that including "don't know" options actually produces more problems than it solves. (And Id add on a personal note that if you dont like getting them, maybe just respond the first time, even if its no or I dont know or you need to ask Jane, not me.). The same thing happened at my old job as well! Second is and I swear this is just coincidence and not meant specifically towards you how Americans cant get that other English-speaking nations slang that sounds perfectly fine to them. Comment: It always translated as here is something that did not get done according to someone else, it was on your plate, please advise me on why you did not do it. I invariably had to respond with here is what I did last month, this is when I sent the information, this is when I tried to contact that person and got no response, gosh its oily under this bus. (okay, the last bit was merely implied). Let me know when you are free in this week to discuss Let me know your convenient time in this week to discuss grammaticality That said, I would never use please advise without more to the sentence. Monday . should you wish. The newbies stopped parking there, problem solved. He sends documents to me to get rid of a blank page (when all it takes is a single backspace to get rid of it) and when he got a macbook I was constantly with him at 30 minutes at a time trying to teach him how to right click or minimize a window, how to locate a file he has saved, etc. Please advise is one of a handful of conventions I use to (hopefully) make my emails easier to read, especially if it is necessary to include a lot of detail in the body: Subject line that indicates what the recipient should do with the email FYI, Action required, Question about chocolate teapot spout training, Advice on incorporating milk chocolate in redesigned teapots, etc. I use please advise, but I use it sparingly, usually after I have presented options and just need some help deciding which option would go best for this particular situation. I think thats exactly it. You guys are amazing. Please advise.. I will assume its friendly if you say just a reminder. I tend to use it if theres a complicated situation with multiple possible solutions, or if Im really just totally lost. Just hope that boss doesnt respond with yes. And nothing else. I will have to watch these. If my calls and emails have been ignored, I will politely include this phrase. They are rarely, if ever, able to clearly articulate their reason(s) and at that point, I ask them to please refrain from using it in communicating with me. But otherwise, I typically use something that apparently many other people find really irritating: Thoughts?. Honestly, please advise drives me crazy too, but I 100% admit its because of who I associate with it. Just this morning I had to send out a second reminder to someone about turning in something that should have been turned in two weeks ago. Because of this, I loathe the phrase please advise and refuse to use it. 3 likes. Most reasonable people will understand it. Use plain language. Current Job involves getting buy-in and approvals from various far-flung parts of Big Bank whose employees are generally overworked, overwhelmed, or just dont know/care about Current Job, because Big Bank manages crisis-to-crisis without ever resolving underlying structural issues because hey, why should they? I mean, what other phrase could you possibly use to indicate that youre ready to help the next person in line? please give me your knowledge so I can stop feeling stupid. We will send you an email to confirm your account. Yes, agreed. Or speaking whale a la Dory in Finding Nemo. The second option sounds like the sender is fed up. What/how about Monday for lunch? She still did not understand. Sexy way of putting it! Want to hear the craziest email pet peeve? I used to work with someone who always put clear as mud? at the end of emails that were, in fact, quite clear. To be fair they can just put Agenda to follow, but none of the invites I receive had any follow-up agenda sent. I use please advise sometimes with my boss always when Im expected to make a judgment call that Im not sure how to handle. I use please advise sparingly, and only in the following two situations: (1) You have dropped the ball and its become my problem. To me the phrase comes off a bit condescending. ? In international travel forums British nationals often ask a question about hotels or restaurants or whatever with I require a XYZ to me I require sounds demanding and entitled and always evokes mild hostility in me. No need to rub the needful in! One of the problems with "Please advise" is that advise is a transitive verb, that is, it must have an object. Oh, The Eyes! You could just say its a reminder without qualifiers. I think Thoughts? is totally fine. It is a way of warning people to stay in the order they came. Ok, this is hilarious, because I used to this way today! At my job, theres generally a designated admin on the approved senders list. ", I love being able to see the tracking of the changes! This happens quite frequently in my current job and its quite normal. I also love the nonsense poetry of please clarify my doubts. For example if a person has not done something huge, dont tell them they did. That one really irritates me too. Iris. People who arent being that way would just ask what do you think? or how should i handle? . If I have asked a series of questions, I put a final, actionable question at the end. I agreed upthread, but since people were disagreeing here, I wanted to +1 the passive-aggressive vibe. I have the same issue with the response No worries but due to a personal relationship, not a work one. Like better But Americans are more likely to use the phrase "likebetter" when talking. When I have a good relationship with someone and see please advise, I think nothing of it. Me too. Maybe Im doing it all wrong, but it works for us. 0. Did you make a decision already? where a I truly dont know what to do, please help me is completely warranted. I also feel it may have something to do with the nature of the relationship you have with the sender it drove me up the wall to receive an email with please advise in it. Tried to get ebay and paypal details in order send an invoice to me. Sort of a I cant move forward without a decision., Yes, it can be a little like this is me, putting the ball in your court. Another is when I get an email that contains only call me. "Please let me know when a good time would be - to meet - to talk - to have lunch" Or "Please let me know when would b. And then there are of course the people who reply all to say, hey, it will be posted, stop asking and then the inevitable please remove me from this list.. Im going to ask Alison!. In most cases, I find that the person writing this at the end of an email already asked me a question in the email. Me: OK, Ill pick some and have a draft for you to review next week. That is why I asked the OP if there were more issues at play in this office. Satisfaction guaranteed! Sort it! I love it! Friday, 1/28: 10am - 12pm EST; 2pm - 4pm EST. However, I also think that in many cases, people like to use fancier language in writing because they think it makes them look smarter or more professional or something. All afternoon we received hundreds of emails remove me from email list and please do not reply all. Senior c-suite exec was pissed and scheduled everyone who responded to that email for a session on email etiquette. } I made sure I never ever used it in my own emails. Seems polite, like thanks for reading(? She said the word alright way too much. Juste tre sr de me faire savoir quels animaux vous prfrez la caisse. Since that is what you actually want to know, couldnt you ask what are the options here? instead of please advise? But that is definitely a personal preference issue. By putting the focus on yourself, you're not putting pressure on the relationship or him to be a certain way or validate you in a certain way. Quick is fine, its the gentle. Like Im reminding you in a gentle way, when you know its really not. He became legendary and it always lightened the tone of the email. But not only would I be ok implying that Im telling my boss what to do, but I do that regularly. Serve the menfolk first? (I am a webmaster for many sites at my University, and a lot of times people from a department want me to do something to their site that is in conflict with ADA compliance/branding initiative/common sense, so if they dont take no for an answer when I explain why we cant do it that way, I bring in another person of influence, like my boss or someone in charge of university-level site compliance, or the persons own department chair, etc., and then explain the request, the problem with the request, and explain that Im trying to resolve the matter. 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