All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews ... Just get a t34 yourself and start clubbing all your opponents, getting 10-0 kills over funny distances and spam "russian bias" in chat for salty enemy deaths. Flank. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. 580 10 December 2020 ... opqo, i thought i saw a T34 and i didnt see many others execpt an M13mgmc. ... for planes), the player does not need change much if his first T34 got destroyed, there is another T34 variation in his lineup. The armour values of the vehicles in game are all correct (except for the highest BR tanks because they have limited information given to the public) Russian tanks have certain advantages that are very friendly to newer players. Come around corner, turrets gone. :) All answers (1) RogueStarflyer. Then to add insult to injury they have it so that research costs at 6.3 of german tanks are that of BR 7.7 of most other trees. Up to the T34-85 they are pretty good but far away from OP. There are fourteen different T-34 variants in War Thunder, from the most conventional of models to experimental vehicles or tanks that only saw limited production. All Ground. Join War Thunder here! 1940, like all the other T-34s, is fairly quick and manoeuvrable, decently a… This is to get you to spend an ever increasing amount of money to upgrade your tank out of frustration. The T-34 (1940) is a Rank II Soviet medium tank with a battle rating of 3.3 (AB/RB) and 2.7 (SB). War thunder has a lot of RNG(random number generator) involved and sometimes it can result in some annoying(and hilarious) moments that some people mistakes as some kind of bias by Gaijin. The T-34 is a legendary Soviet medium tank… or, rather, a whole family of tanks. 1. t34s reloading time is faster than IRL - vs - Panther D reloading time nerffed as hell Both have comparable shell weight and length. NEW PART - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPWbEYmUxMk First part - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm5Y6Vwu6b8&t Music: 1. Unleash the Russian Bias!Apologies for the fps issues on this one. you clearly don’t have any idea about armour. The Heavy Tank T34 is a rank IV American heavy tank with a battle rating of 7.0 (AB) and 6.7 (RB/SB). You regularly need 2 shots instead of one now, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Decided to make a classic. Jul 21 @ 9:23am. I’ve had a Tiger tank blown up by a 40 mm anti aircraft gun. The T-34 is a legendary Soviet medium tank… or, rather, a whole family of tanks. Especially, if … The War Thunder team would like to wish all our players, their family and their friends a very ‘Merry Christmas’ and a prosperous, peaceful and more importantly, a very … Sign in to follow this . IS-6s which bounce 200mm pen ammo with their turret sides, Bobjects 279 getting there at the same time as light tanks. level 1. So there is a flood of war thunder fan boys foaming at the mouth that will start trolling to get your thread closed anytime you point out that issues are not being addressed. The only thing Battle Thunder gets right is the money making system it uses to drain the bank accounts of tank fan boys like you. Despite what you might think, gaming a video game is not real life. They still have RNG bounce properties due to their sloping, but again: shoot turret. Point of fact is they may have won the war but never fully recovered and that fact played into the collapse of the USSR in the 1990s. I've bounced any number of 75, 88, 94, and 105 mm shells off the T34 UFP. The lesson was you report what the quota was set at, not the real numbers. 16 Turán III Prototípus war thunder a39 war thunder german churchill war thunder patch 1.63 war thunder russian bias War Thunder Sim world of tanks amx cdc World of Tanks Best Armor World of Tanks Best tanks World of Tanks Chieftain Mk. ... not germans or Russians. Also, nearly every Pz IV driver has learned to aim for the turret. But all three of those tanks have good speed. Check your inbox or spam folder to confirm your subscription. I’m also coming from a military background, and it is a well known fact that Russian materials capabilities are over overwhelmingly exaggerated, not only under Stalling, but also even nowadays: exaggerated characteristics, poor performance, deplorable quality, but they are still playing the tough guys…, (TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT BECAUSE DATA-MINERS DONT SHARE SOURCES SO I CAN’T VERIFY ANY OF IT), Ya so there have been data-mining operation about war thunder sense it found its hole in the wall as the only (big) game using a realistic damage system, and they have found that all tanks that have the USSR class in their code (sorry if I’m using the wrong term I only have web development under my belt I’m still learning) get 2 chances on their chances of getting penetrated ex. The allied aid was in large part all that helped the Soviets hold the line after the devastating losses in the first two years. Some others have higher pen rounds, but when it comes to your tank taking vs others taking hits the Leo2A5 comes out on top. You could have explained that to them and they could have equipped all their main battle tanks with 40mm bofors guns and saved a lot of tankers lives. That and the opening of five “second fronts” that the Germans had to siphon troops off to deal with. T-34 bouncing Tiger IIs with their driver's hatch, T-54s with god ammo (hit it with heatfs, nope, only yellow). He simply can remain on his luck because of the somewhat unrealistic bouncing physics of shells – or in the case of a penetration that not much damage happens on his tank. I'm still working through the USSR Tier V. When I was playing US, I never found any of the T34s to be hard enough to beat to justify the amount of complaining about them. All bias in War Thunder is really just a meme. Your email address will not be published. Followers 9. Because fuck Dicker Max, Also the nuke shells have been quite heavily nerfed as of now. Post World War Effect. By contrast, at the moment players of other nations should make a big circle around vehicles with the Battle rating range from 4.3 to 6.3 ! There is a combination: T 34 are easy to "get" (it is the most basic brawl tank) and people are dumb enough not to move their brain cells to think how to counter it. By I-Ginido-I@psn, June 12, 2019 in Medium Vehicles. The Russian BIAS in War Thunder on the example of the T-34-85. Como sus predecesores, no es un francotirador de largo alcance, sobresale en combates cerrados y tiene buena movilidad para cerrar distancia a los oponentes. I've killed T10M's and T-54's with it. It is also necessary to realize that has only four crew members, which makes it more vulnerable in comparison with T-34-85. Russian bias in War Thunder on the example of the T-34-85. Press J to jump to the feed. Red Alert 3 - Soviet March 2. Gee too bad they didn’t have your genius back in the 1940’s. Foggy. Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site. 14 November 2020. THE ARMOR ON THE T34 Gun mantlet is wrong anyways. Read more: Operation W.I.N.T.E.R. The heavy tank concept didn't die with the end of hostility and a final attempt was made to remake the T29 into a more modern, lethal weapon system. when ever we get 1 decent tank war thunder shows how to destroy it. Period. They've put more tanks in the game that can deal with them, namely UK tanks with their high penetration. My name is Norman 'Kretaner' and since my childhood I am interested in history and strategy games. This produced the T34 Heavy Tank, which mounted a 120 mm gun based The power of the T-34 in War Thunder [German captured T-34-747(r)] and 7 kills with one mission with the He 111 H-16.. T-34-747(r) of War Thunder. OP though, in theory, the BR system should level things up. It has sloped armor which increases chance to bounce, shells filled with large amounts of explosive fit in with the APHE meta, most of the maps have capture points in urban or confined areas which help the T-34 as it an excellent brawler, good mobility is an added bonus, etc. Who does not know the F2P tank and plane war game War Thunder can download it from here for free: Despite such problems, the tactical options, vehicle setups and use of aircraft over the battlefield makes the game still superior to its competitors. Plus, I'm not one to whine about russian bias and I think it's greatly exaggerated but I'd love to see you do a youtube series where you try to grind US 5.0 and up :) Good luck with the game. So far, therefore, in accordance with the kill/loss ratio the following vehicles (with an indication of the Battle Rating = BR) are the most effective ones in Realistic Land Battles.. When it takes a tier II tank to kill a tier I, something is wrong. I will say that the T-34-76 models are still arguably over performing in reload speed slightly, basically the current reload speed would be that found on a firing range with the shells being loaded from the ready rack with the loader loading shells as fast as he could. If a 40mm anti aircraft gun has enough pen to kill a tiger, then it will. For the life of me, my spaded Cromwell I and Churchill III can't pen the front like my Pz IV or M18 can. T34 line vs Sherman line. Should be 5.7 as it is an effective counter against the Tiger H1. This is about half of the tank losses of the Red Army. They are known for their powerful guns, excellent mobility and, in many cases, decent armour as well. The effect of the 75 mm gun of the Panther is relatively weak in War Thunder, whereby this also medium tank (and is considered by many experts to be really the best tank design of the war) is rarely used as a competitor, especially since its BR is higher settled. NOTE: VISITING THIS SITE WITH ENABLED AD BLOCKERS IS PROHIBITED ! They lie about everything. Bias or not, the T-34-1941 needs its BR increased. its always been wrong. Flank. Learn how your comment data is processed. Historically, it was a revolutionary design, which in 1941 formed an unpleasant surprise for the German troops. Had more penetrate (except for the 75's) than bounce, but still bounced a lot. a 88 can easly pen the upper hull. I played War Thunder for more than a year now, I also have some programming background, and it is the most rigged game I’ve never seen. the T34-85 (both versions) are more or less light tanks, everything can pen them from any angle at their BR. Certainly for me the T34's have the best K:D ratios (plus the KV-1 and the British 3IGC at BR 3.0). In the case it is found, defeat it in the same manner as any other T-34 tanks. The Heavy Tank T29 is a gift rank IV American heavy tank with a battle rating of 7.0 (AB/RB) and 6.7 (SB). http://warthunder.com/en/registration... Also seen on Thunder Show! It was introduced in Update 1.67 "Assault". They are not OP in the slightest at BR 4.0 and 4.3 respectively (AB). Longer, heavier gun with higher center of gravity is why. Crossout . 2. t34s gun stabilizing in 1/3 times - vs - Panther D that IRL than de spite having the best suspension of WW2, when coming to a halt the Panther takes an excessive amount of time for the gun to stabilize. Although the Russian developer of War Thunder always denies repeatedly: the bias is real and unmistakable. The T-34 is a Soviet medium tank design put into service in 1940. The Dicker Max can 1 shot literally every Soviet tank in the game frontally. Here is a story to let you know why. Flank. The T-34/85's are generally pretty average in everything except mobility. It would be interesting to see the actual success rates in battles, I would bet that the T34's are top performers by a significant margin at each BR they appear from 3.7 to 5.3; the 100 mm might be less positive because it faces tough opposition and the BR's get compressed at the higher levels. :) All answers (1) RogueStarflyer. All tanks get equivalent knowledge of other tanks depending on crew skills. Early T34's are the most trolly tanks in War Thunder. All Discussions ... Russia bias thread number 76837826 #2. Strangely, i don't have any memory about Tier I-III, maybe i have been grinding at tier IV-V for too long. Join now and take part in major battles on land, in the air, and at sea, fighting with millions of … All the tanks you listed generally have pretty good guns especially the T-34 85 and the Super Pershing. Leigh Patton, no Russia bias doesnt exist on war Thunder, od you dont like historical accuracy, go home and watch Hollywood propaganda movies… T-34-85 od not an easy target, and M4A3E8 od not god od tanks, iz is comparable to the first T-34. The first public iteration of the T-34 series, the T-34 1940 shows most of the early Soviet weaponry but provides a demonstration of its famous sloped armour and mobility. When I was playing USSR, I found none of them to be magical. Ok, so this happened and I had to take the opportunity. 1. The War Thunder Team. The Germans lost the war due to logistics in large part due to production from the West. The ability of Russian tanks has always been a fiction of Stalinist propaganda and continues to this day. The T29 was introduced in the Update 1.59 "Flaming Arrows" as a gift vehicle and was available on the Gaijin store for pre-order before the update. Not even WoT is that obvious with their soviet bias. This produced the T34, which mounted a 120 mm gun ... War Thunder. Then again, spalling, cramped crew cabin,the unreliability and poor quality of russian tanks/ammo isn't modeled in game. So identical penetration numbers, wildly different actual penetration. Premium and Battle Pass Coins Vehicles Customization . Russian armor has in the main provided western tankers with target practice. Don’t get me wrong, I am no fan of the Germans, but I can read and interpret data. Stalin had everyone in the Ministry arrested and along with their families sent to the Gulag. The balancing is said to be done after considering the outcomes of all the battles, (presumably weighed in some way by the opposition, some allowance for player level/skill etc) and then either some parameter is tweaked (like reload rate) or the BR is changed. So which ever way you want to look at it, their great offensives never would have happened without western aid and they never would have recaptured their lost territory. I developed software for a living, and software models can do whatever you want them to do. Some others have higher pen rounds, but when it comes to your tank taking vs others taking hits the Leo2A5 comes out on top. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The heavy tank concept didn't end with the war and a final attempt was made to remake the T29 into a more modern, lethal weapon system. The book, The Tiger’s Are Burning written by a respected aviation writer, claimed based on Russian figures, that more Tiger tanks were destroyed at Kursk, than had even been manufactured up to that point by German industry. (I know why war thunder has Germany the hardest tree to grind because it is a started nation and every new player wants that “epic german experience” but maybe for us older player so have been playing for 3+ years could get a brake). I have seen alot of people complaining about russia needing to be nerfed. Read more: Operation W.I.N.T.E.R. Squads . German E-50M no swearing random t54 lwt tiger ii sla. Regimes who see the truth as something to manipulate to their own ends don’t selectively lie. It exists (not talking about the conspiracy theory behind it, but the fact that they can be very powerful under the right circumstance), but its nothing game-breaking or that skill can't overcome. What they are good for is running over unarmed or under armed civilians as they did in Hungary and Czechoslovakia, Clones of Russian tanks did the same thing in Tiananmen Square. I wouldn't worry about it. gimpy117 612 I'm new to War Thunder and have been hearing "Russian bias" and "German bias" being thrown around but don't really understand their meaning. Was not expecting that kind of accuracy. Battle Thunder is optimized to make money. I was wrong. In game you don't get that match up except Cromwell versus Pz IV's. I've had 90 mm HEATFS that penetrates 320 mm bounce squarely off the side of a T34-85's turret. The T-34 mod. If you just take a look at the specs, you can see that the Russians are fairly balanced…… Until tier 3 and above. T-34 1940 T-34 1941 T-34 1942 T-34E T-34E STZ T-34 (Germany) The T-34 is a Soviet Tank. ... You sound like the players who claim bias because the tank tutorial shows how to kill a German tank. Without the 500,000 wheeled vehicles and 1200 locomotives sent to them they would have had to walk carrying everything else produced a lot fewer tanks. 19 July 2018. (as well as put in higher BRs than their direct soviet counterparts) Then there is the fact german guns are next to useless against the front armor of most tanks (BR ratings of 4.7-6.7,) because they are world war 2 tanks facing early and sometimes mid cold war tanks that can brush aside german panthers or tiger 2s without even needing to think about it. Someone else also tested the 100 mm versus the 88. The T29 is a formidable heavy tank that introduces the 105 mm T5 cannon in a rotating turret rather than in the fixed case-mate setting on the T95, with a tougher-than-average gun mantlet, and a sloped, but slightly thin hull. Art. War Thunder is crap. Maybe(?) The CNC machine had trouble cutting through the pure bias of the T-34-85. You cannot trust the Stalin era production statistics. ... You sound like the players who claim bias because the tank tutorial shows how to kill a German tank. After the Wall came down, it was pretty obvious that anything written based on facts “known” before 1990 was based on Stalinist propaganda. You have to understand that the T-34 is a well-known Russian tank from WW2. Thus, the Tiger driver is forced on the mostly small, chaotic battlefields with frequent close-quarter fights of the game to achieve far more kills without being knocked-out by a single shot (the so-called ‘one-shotting’). Nevertheless, 44,900 T-34 (82% of total production) were lost during WW2. I thought I was going to roflstomp. Long story short I died 3 times to T-34's one shotting me. Later, I have learned programming and the development of computer games, and finally with the Internet, also web design. There is an example of the 45 mm frontal armour of a T34 bouncing a Leo HEAT-FS shell, something a Tiger II UFP can't do. The modeling of the vehicles bears no resemblance to fact. Why is the T34 85 a 5.7? The odds are 75/25 to be penetrated the game changes it to a 50/50 THAN if they do get penetrated the game gives it another go with it at a 50/50, BUT the german tanks that already at a disadvantage because of non-sloped armor get their penetration numbers changes from 25/75 to 50/50. The model T-34-85 was built in 1944 and is armed with the more powerful 85 mm gun and is located in War Thunder on the BR (Battle Rating) 5.3. Also, its not listed but as for the pic of the M10 Achilles bouncing on the T-34's hull, that's because it was a T-34STZ at a slight incline. They got rid of 50mm antitank and tank guns for that very reason. I wouldnt call it a bias, germans had some major problems against Kv- and T-34 tanks, while russians had problems against Tiger/Tiger2, TDs beginning from Stug 3s with long 75mm and late Pz IV models starting from F2 series onwards. While other tanks reload speeds are those found in combat conditions with an average loader, quite a few of the US tanks are like this as an example. Additional to that, the extremely low BR-classification of 5.3 as medium tank, whereby the T-34-85 only costs 280 points compared to 450 points of the heavy tank Tiger I ! Their shells are very powerful, their armour is well-sloped and generally hard to crack. The game is ridiculous and I stopped playing it months ago. Otherwise the T-34 simply factors into the meta well. Subscribe to our newsletter with the latest reports from the war diaries and about World War I & II. Bias because the various decisions that decide how well a tank performs just happen to particularly favour Soviet tanks. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. War Thunder. I have played only US and USSR. What is this? CanisVonCarnifex. Yep, both. The T29 is perhaps one of the most formid… Most tanks can one-shot a T-34 from the front. The Russian BIAS in War Thunder on the example of the T-34-85. Although the Russian developer of War Thunder always denies repeatedly: the bias is real and unmistakable. War Thunder. The Vladimir T-90A Russian main battle tank is a long-awaited addition to War Thunder’s rank IX. They are known for their powerful guns, excellent mobility and, in many cases, decent armour as well. Losses in men were so great that they were being sent into combat half trained and unarmed, so the Soviet army did not get better, they just flooded the Germans. There's nothing that sucks the enjoyment out of War Thunder like seeing a T-10M notice you and rush towards you because he knows you can't pen him frontally. Anyone who questions it is attacked on forums by fanboys or banned by staff. The T-34–85 is incre T-34 bouncing Tiger IIs with their driver's hatch, T-54s with god ammo (hit it with heatfs, nope, only yellow). Further production was cancelled in the post-war demilitarization. General info Survivability and armour. To the suffering of the allied players, however, this was the German captured tank version T-34-747 (r)! Also, the system appears to jack up the computer opponent based on the level of vehicle you are using. So BR's are supposed to level up, be really interesting to see the actual stats from Gaijin; I may well be wrong but based on the performance of the tanks as I've played them I'd be pretty surprised if the T34's in particular didn't stand-out as successful at their respective BR's. There is 100% clear bias. 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